Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Motherland
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 14:40, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
- delete to wiktionary. Dicdef in its best. Also, the definitions seems to be quite suspicious to me. I looked up a couple of dictionaries at hand and didn't see the "metropolitan state" meaning presented in the article as main. Native Englis speakers: please verify. mikka (t) 21:04, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Err, "metropolitan state"? That doesn't appear anywhere in any version of the article that I can see. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 21:15, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
- metropolitan state redirects to colony. I think that mikkalai is referring to the first definition given, namely a mother country in contrast to its colonies. If that is the case, then, yes, in the sense of an "origin country" motherland does have this meaning. Uncle G 05:55, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)
- Are you sure that a son of a British colonel born and brought up in India would call Misty Albion his motherland? (I am not arguing here, I just want to confirm the usage). Of course, Britain is the motherland for the colonel himself; but in most generic meaning, rather than as a term to refer to a state that owns the colony, IMO. Once again, I don't see this usage in the dictionaries on my bookshelf. The same colonel may be recruited to Foreign Legion and fight in Congo, but he will not refer to Belgium as Motherland while sitting in Leopoldville. mikka (t) 18:05, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- It's a good question. I don't know offhand. Finding quotations to demonstrate exact real-world use is something that Wiktionary will have to do, now that the article has been transwikied. In the mean time, we have to deal with the article here at Wikipedia. Uncle G 22:32, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)
- Are you sure that a son of a British colonel born and brought up in India would call Misty Albion his motherland? (I am not arguing here, I just want to confirm the usage). Of course, Britain is the motherland for the colonel himself; but in most generic meaning, rather than as a term to refer to a state that owns the colony, IMO. Once again, I don't see this usage in the dictionaries on my bookshelf. The same colonel may be recruited to Foreign Legion and fight in Congo, but he will not refer to Belgium as Motherland while sitting in Leopoldville. mikka (t) 18:05, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- metropolitan state redirects to colony. I think that mikkalai is referring to the first definition given, namely a mother country in contrast to its colonies. If that is the case, then, yes, in the sense of an "origin country" motherland does have this meaning. Uncle G 05:55, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)
- Err, "metropolitan state"? That doesn't appear anywhere in any version of the article that I can see. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 21:15, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Move to wikitionary(redirect to Fatherland) or Expand. The article could have potential but isn't import for nowFalphin 17:36, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I just transwikied it. --Dmcdevit 22:17, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- McBot has kindly transwikied the article to Wiktionary, for the Wiktionarians to use as they see fit. In the mean time, the question becomes what to do with this article. mikkalai has created a shiny new Motherland (disambiguation) article, with a range of things, from song albums to political parties, to disambiguate between. The bulk of motherland is translations and synonyms, which Wiktionary will deal with, leaving not very much encyclopaedia content at all. How about Keep and replace with the current contents of Motherland (disambiguation) to turn motherland into an equal-weight disambiguation? Uncle G 22:32, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)
- Keep agree with UncleG. JamesBurns 07:05, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and exapnd. The concept of a motherland is a historical one. Leanne 10:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and expand, article has potential. Megan1967 06:16, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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