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Mr. Game & Watch

"Game & Watch" is the name of A character? I'm confused. -- Zoe

A generic little black stick figure that you played in a lot of games that didn't feature NES characters. They only bothered to give him a name for SSBM. You can write reminders on it.

Apparently his name was Hideo before that. Is that true? If so, his full name would be Mr. Hideo Game & Watch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.246.192.22 (talk) 10:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Hideo was the name given to him by many Japanese players. Suichi (talk) 16:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

This is all nonsense. Every Game & Watch game featured totally different characters. The early ones were referred to as puppets and mannequins. The later ones were given names, or based off Nintendo's other characters (Mario, Link, Donkey Kong Jr., etc.) Mr. Game & Watch was simply given the name as representative of the Game & Watch exclusively for Super Smash Bros. Melee and later releases. There was never a character called Mr. Game & Watch before 2001, and if anyone can find anything on anyone called "Hideo" then I'd be very VERY surprised. Check the old manuals (US and Japanese)... they're all online. It's not hard to confirm. Fryguy64 (talk) 00:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I think Mr Game and Watch is also the name of his species, like Yoshi for example. --86.153.230.43 (talk) 14:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Fryguy64 is 100% correct.--93.148.65.211 (talk) 15:03, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Characters in the Game and Watch series featured little mannequin like humans, all of them are not the same person. Mr. Game and Watch was solely created for the purpose of a representation of the entire series as a whole, as there was no main character. He was made as the main character to represent his series. Le Panini (^{Talk to}_me?) 14:06, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

See also

Why is there 'Elektronika' in the See also section? They were a CCCP manufacturer of calculators that has nothing to do with the G&W.

Game modes

Please add detailed (and sure) information about what was main diffirence between "Game A" and "Game B" (time, obstacles count, etc.)

This was different for nearly every game. It would be a mighty list of differences... Fryguy64 (talk) 00:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Game & Watch as inspiration for DS?

I'm wondering if there should be a section about this. --Thaddius 13:48, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

It looks like it, they appear to have the same basic design without the DS's other functions. --D-hyo 17:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. I removed that. It's original research unless you can find something official which says that the DS was inspired by G&W. 199.126.137.209 18:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I think it's pretty obvious that the DS was inspired by the G&W. It can't be a coincidence. ~Anonymous. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinzbrain (talk • contribs) 16:47, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I'd say it's still difficult to say if it was "inspired" by the system, considering I haven't been able to find much to prove as such. It could be simply a matter of style, after all; the Game & Watch might have been successful, but there's nothing saying that the DS simply didn't take after its design because it was easier to do with the system foundation the G&W laid. It could be kinda like saying a flat-screen TV could have been inspired from the big, bulky TVs from the early 2000's.JCAW1 (talk) 02:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

g&w is the original d-pad?

Is it true that the Game & Watch features the original d-pad, for which Nintendo still holds the patent (hence the weird d-pads on the PlayStation--they get around the patent)? If so, it should be in the article.

I'm pretty sure this is the first 'system' to ever use the D-Pad. It'd be OK to throw that in, I'm sure. Fourange (talk) 12:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Factual errors and POV

"The Game & Watch consoles were small" We need dimensions.

"Most devices had one direction pad (D-pad) comprised of Up, Down, Left and Right buttons on the left hand side and usually one, sometimes two, buttons on the right." I think most devices didn't have a D-pad.

"On the top right hand side of the machine are three buttons: Alarm, Time & Game" This is not true for all games. kabbelen 01:48, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I recommend that you just go ahead and make any changes you see fit. I don't think this talk page gets enough attention for a "discussion first" approach to be very effective. I'm primarily focused on some other articles right now. Dancter 01:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

changes made. This article still needs considerable work.87.65.70.191 00:19, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Super mario bros g&w

I have one. Would it be a vio to upload a scanned image of it playing? Its the blue one that plays like Super Mario World, where you have to jump from platform to platform, etc. Quatreryukami 01:50, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Mr. G&W tribute to Gunpei Yokoi?

I once heard a story that Mr. Game and Watch was included in SSBM specifically as a tribute to the late Gunpei Yokoi. Is this true? 24.127.145.27 18:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Woah woah woah.

Why was the character article merged with the hardware article? I had a lot of research done about Mr. Game & Watch. Things like personality and age. This just doesn't feel right. Fourange 15:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

About Mr. Game & Watch in Brawl

There isn't more than one of him. Well, technically there ARE, but they're clones created by the Subspace Army. I'll just edit that little bit. Fourange (talk) 11:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Did you know that mr. game and watch was used to create the shadow bugs? Valehd (talk) 14:23, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

A picture of Mr. Game & Watch.

We have plenty of Game & Watch pictures, but not one picture of Mr. Game & Watch. We should probably put one up. Once the Smash Bros. Dojo updates him, we shoud try to get that picture onto this article. Fourange (talk) 12:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

ATTN: Anyone who is EVER going to edit/add to the Mr. Game & Watch article.

Don't refer to Mr. Game & Watch as simply "Game & Watch" or "GW" or anything like that. It's not hard to type "Mr.". So, Mr. Game & Watch = character. Game & Watch = game series. Fourange (talk) 12:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Mr. Game & Watch cameos.

To keep things tidy, it might be a good idea to create a sub-catagory for his cameos, instead of cramming it all into his article alone. Fourange (talk) 12:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

But that would gum things up. The article was made to fit all infomation about this source into it, Making in neccesary to leave all infomation in this article, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.27.68.247 (talk) 00:38, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

...Passing wind?

Uh, I looked up a screenshot from Wario Ware: Touched! and it looks more like Mr. Game & Watch is jumping, not passing wind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.248.10.65 (talk) 02:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Image

What's the big deal this image is a whole lot better than the one on this article: File:Game and Watch-DonkeyKongJR.jpg.

It's the same game, just this one you can see better. 208.127.133.43 (talk) 21:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Merge from Mr. Game & Watch

I have merged Mr. Game & Watch with Game & Watch. Please read about it here. — OranL (talk) 20:17, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Sources

This article needs more sources. I have reverted a change because these tags need to be here to let people know that these claims are unverified. I will concede that the tag at the top is good enough, so I we can take out the {{cleanupsection}} tag, but the {{fact}} tags are staying. — OranL (talk) 16:29, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Nintendo Game Watch (Wristwatch)

I can find no mention on Wikipedia whatsoever of the Game Watch series wrist watches whatsoever with the exception of this photo on the zelda section: [[1]] I remember them being almost as numerous as the Game and Watches.

mr.game and watch in mario bros.3?!

i was playing mario 3,and then mr.g and w fell out of the sky.THIS IS TRUE!!!!all i did was beat bowser in less than 50 seconds,and then i had to fight mrg and w!!then,i was playing as him every other time i turned on the game!-game and watch 64

Merger proposal

I don't believe that the subgames are notable enough for their own articles. -Falcon8765 (talk) 16:46, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that splitting them is the best way to find them for Gamer Average Purplebackpack89 (talk) 04:46, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I took the initiative and merged them into a list of G&W games. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 21:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Umm.....

"He also appears in the Nintendo DS title Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? as the Game & Watch game Chef is unlocked after the in-game kitchen timer function is"

.....is what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.246.49.81 (talk) 07:19, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Which CPU(s) was/were used in the Game & Watch ? Or where they powered by an ASIC or something?

I was looking at this article and it didn't tell me which CPU was used in these devices? Or was there no CPU at all? Or was some kind of ASIC used or something else? Would really appreciate if someone would add this info. to the article. What was the speed of the CPU in MHz? What was the power consumption in milli Watts and milli Amp's, both for the device as a whole and also for the CPU? --Live Steam Mad (talk) 02:45, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Dates

In the "Series" section, a list of "series" is given, with the last item in the list as "(1998)". In the paragraph directly below that, it states the last Game & Watch game made was released in 1991.                     ~Rayvn  20:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RayvnEQ (talk • contribs)

Mini Game and Watch

Tomy toys is releasing Chef, Parachute, and Octapus as solar powered mini-keychain Game and Watches. They have the look of the classic systems but in a 2 inch shell. This should be added to the page.

Here are two images: http://www.strapya-world.com/pic/2010/gamewatch-007.jpg http://www.strapya-world.com/pic/2010/minisolar-20.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.168.94 (talk) 06:38, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Discussion of the watch

Needs more detailed discussion of the watch function. Either that or a photo needs to be uploaded showing the watch. The reader has no concept of where the watch is on the unit or what it looks like in relation to everything else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.10.94 (talk) 14:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC) Biggs173 (talk) 14:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)biggs173

ssb model

did you know that in smash bros, mr. game and watch's model is 3d? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valehd (talk • contribs) 14:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

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Big-Tablet "Game & Watch"

Is this real? (for little child) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.38.65.148 (talk) 20:49, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Evaluating the Game and Watch series article

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Name of article: Game & Watch series

I chose this article because I found reaching into the roots of gaming history an interesting endeavor. As I do hold aspirations of becoming a game designer in my near future, I believe looking into the past of both consoles and games alike would be an insightful experience.

Lead evaluation

The lead does a good job introducing just what the pseudo-gaming system is, as well as a brief overview of its history; however, though the lead touches on practically all the topics later discussed within the article, it took me a second read through it to understand that. This is mainly because the topics themselves are mentioned in passing which, in some cases, is likely a good way to limit the number of words in the lead to more easily draw a reader's attention. It talks about its origin, how it was developed as a series between 1980 and 1991, its legacy of success as Nintendo's earliest gaming product, and... well, what the lead doesn't mention is "Mr. Game and Watch", a character who appears as a cameo throughout a variety of other Nintendo games and acts as an homage to the product series of the same name. On the bright side, all of the topics discussed in the lead are further discussed throughout the article, and, overall, the lead is concise without being overly detailed.

Content evaluation

While all the information within the article is relevant, I do see one glaring issue; funnily enough, it's again regarding the "Mr. Game and Watch" character. On December 7th, 2018, the latest game in Nintendo's highly-renowned "Super Smash Bros. Ultimate" was released with Mr. Game and Watch as a playable character; the article doesn't mention that whatsoever. Therefore, while all the content proceeding this ending section is up-to-date, this is something of a missing issue. The section regarding his character does mention his involvement in the series, but gives information on his role in each of the games; it gives none concerning the aforementioned "Ultimate" game, though it does fall under the umbrella of "subsequent Super Smash Bros." titles mentioned in said section. There are also a few other Smash games he was involved in that this subsection doesn't depict his role in.

Tone and balance evaluation

The article maintains a neutral tone while also showing no bias one way or the other, as all articles should be; in a similar vein, no viewpoints are really over or underrepresented, and the article doesn't seek to persuade the reader to favor any position over the other.

Sources and references evaluation

While there are many instances where the article has proper enough sources to back up its information, it isn't perfect; for one thing, take into consideration the fact that, again, Mr. Game and Watch's appearance in Ultimate isn't stated whatsoever. For instance, if you look at the lead, literally in the first paragraph, there's a needed citation for the simple fact that the "Game and Watch" can function as both an alarm and a clock; if you need a citation before you're barely even three sentences in, then it doesn't look too well. The sources are somewhat current, if only a bit dated considering the fact that most them seem to have come from the early to mid 2010's. The links do seem recent enough that a couple of them work.

Organization evaluation

The article is fairly easy to read, as well as concise; it admittedly helps that the Game and Watch is so old a system that there isn't so much to be said about it, but thankfully that makes keeping things brief all the easier. There also don't appear to be any spelling or grammatical errors, and the sections are properly broken down into a good order with each section making for a good reflection of their corresponding topics.

Images and media evaluation

While I can't say the page will be winning any artistic awards, I can say that, where it does use images, it uses them well. It has three: an image of the "game and watch" itself (at least, one rendition of it), an image of its eventual "flip", multi-screened design (this image could have been more properly located where the text actually talks about how this version of the Game & Watch could be scene as a predecessor to other "flip" game consoles such as the Nintendo DS), and an image of "Mr. Game and Watch" as he typically appears in the Super Smash Bros. franchise. Each is well-captioned with just what the image is meant to represent, while also adhering to Wikipedia's copyright regulations. Aside from the image of the multi-screen design for the Game & Watch, I'd say the other two images are properly placed: the image of the single-screened (and likely more recognizable) "G&W" is towards the beginning where the lead is, and the image of "Mr. G&W" is towards where it talks about his avatar's appearance in other game media.

Talk page evaluation

The conversations within the talk page all seemed focused on rectifying and adding correct information to the article; all in all, pretty good. I honestly wasn't expecting this number of people to be committed to getting the facts straight concerning a not-so-well-aged video game console, but it was refreshing to see that that was the case. The article itself is rated as "Start-class" and is part of the "Video games" WikiProject. I'd say the way Wikipedia itself discusses this topic as compared to how I've generally learned them through classes isn't how I figured it; while I did understand that different WikiProjects had different, typically independent groups of people working together, I didn't expect there to be "a collaborative [group] effort to improve the coverage of video games on Wikipedia", as it describes itself. I did notice that people speaking in the talk section didn't seem as formal, though, such as not using proper indentation or capitalization in some areas.

Overall evaluation

I'd say the article's overall status is that, while it's fine, it could benefit from some more information and citations. While, if you look at the article, it only says "citation needed" twice, there are some instances where it does state some facts without backing them up with proper secondary sources. For instance, if you look at the "Legacy" section, there isn't a single citation to be had; I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but I will say that, considering how the section introduces itself ("the Game & Watch made handheld video game consoles vastly popular. Many toy companies followed in the footsteps of the Game & Watch, such as Tiger Electronics and their Star Wars themed games"), I was suspecting a citation to back up this claim. The article's strength is that, where it does have the information, the information holds true, it's brief, and it's straight to the point. No words seem to be spared, all while maintaining a neutral point of view. Though, when it comes to improvements, I reiterate that I personally believe it could benefit from more cited sources, and more specific information in some areas (such as, with how I discussed earlier, how Mr. Game and Watch's role in Super Smash Bros. games after Brawl changed, and also how it literally opens the "Origin and design" section with "it is said" without an actual cited fact). All in all, I'd say it is well-developed, but could do with some improvements.

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Link to feedback: Talk:Game & Watch series ; specifically under "Game and Watch as inspiration for DS?" JCAW1 (talk) 02:44, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

SMB 35th anniversary G&W

There's info about it in 3 different places, all restating the same stuff. Which section should it go in? SpikyLlama (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2021 (UTC)