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Murder

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In the first paragraph, I read that Neal was a convicted murderer. Later, I read that he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter. Since involuntary manslaughter isn't murder, I rewrote the first paragraph accordingly. I've also removed the "murderer" category.

I realize that this took place in the US, and that US law has recently seemed to allow the most remarkable phenomena (cf Guantanamo Bay). Has involuntary manslaughter been retroactively reclassified as murder? -- Hoary 05:04, 2005 Jun 5 (UTC)

University Education

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In many reference books and articles on Tom Neal he's listed as a graduate of Northwestern University and Harvard, some say the law school, in other cases it's just the university. I understand that people graduated from high school and college at younger ages back then, yet Neal, listed as having been born in 1914, seems awfully young for a fellow to have graduated college, obtained a graduate degree and to have started a movie career in 1938, with two releases that year, several more for 1939. Unless Neal was an extraordinarily good student he likely graduated college in 1935-36, law (or grad) school,--he must have been remarkably studious, took classes all year round--would likely have earned him his degree in 1937-38 or possibly later. The IMDB has Neal making his debut on Broadway in 1935, at the age of twenty-one, not out of the question and yet curious, as he's listed as having received his Harvard degree in 1938, the same year he started in movies. His rise as an actor strikes mas a remarkably quick, especially as he was a fairly limited performer. I'm curious if anyone has researched Neal's university education to see if he actually earned those degrees. It's possible, for sure, yet the years given make it seem unlikely to me. Also, Neal's tough guy persona, true to life, as later events bear out, don't suggest a man with a high level of education.


JB — Preceding unsigned comment added by Telegonus (talkcontribs) 12:02, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dumb comment. How do you explain his victim in the celebrated brawl, Franchot Tone? He was Ivy League, too, Cornell to be exact. Obviously, you have messed with Neal's Wikipedia biography, not having actually read that he was born into wealth and went to private as well as public schools. Entirely possible and probable he went to prestigious universities. Also, if you note his boxing career, he often boxed in Cambridge, Massachusetts, while attending Harvard. All one would have to do is get his yearbooks from that school.

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