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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was - deleted - SimonP 15:13, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Lance Brown

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Biographical entry for Lance Brown. Libertarian Party activist in California. Not yet 35, it looks like he is running a vanity campaign for the Libertarian Party presidential nomination for 2008. Article doesn't establish notability, and as far as I can tell, neither do the Google hits. Looks like he is using Wikipedia for self-promotion, although it could be an associate doing it. Someone has also listed him as a candidate in U.S. presidential election, 2008 Delete as not notable. --BM 21:41, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete, nn prez wannabe. -- Riffsyphon1024 21:56, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep - 3390 Google hits is notable [1] - Jord 21:58, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Not really. Check out what the hits actually are. From the ones I saw, they are mostly links to his blog. One does not find media interviews, biographical articles, etc, about this person. Blogging has a tendency to really run up the Google hits. If you think these Google hits indicate notability, it should be an easy matter for you to find something in one of those hits that actually establishes notability. --BM 22:32, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment though the 2004 Libertarian nominee garnered about 90000 google hits, if you filter out the countless list of candidates and election results pages he gets only 15,000 [2]... If a first time candidate for the nomination over three years from the election can get 3390 google hits to 15000 for the past nominee I think that is very notable!. - Jord 22:10, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Ambi 22:02, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, but rewrite to stop it being an advert. Robinoke 22:13, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep I agree with Jord. Q0 22:14, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
    • In regard to the comment about Lance Brown or one of his associates using Wikipedia for self-promotion: I am the one who created this article and I am the one who added Lance Brown to the U.S. presidential election, 2008 page. I am neither Lance Brown nor an am I an associate of his. I found his campaign through the web in 2001. About Lance Brown not yet being 35, I don't think this should be an issue since he will be 35 by 2008. As for notability, I am not sure how to varify whether not not Lance Brown is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. I've tried looking through Wikipedia's policies about this issue, but the actual criteria seems somewhat vague. In my opinion, people prominent in their own local juristiction should be included, and Lance Brown has appeared regularly on local television [3] and he is chairman of his own county's Libertarian Party. Also, I do believe his campaign is real, and I don't think it is a vanity campaign. I believe even if he loses the primary, running in the presidential primary as a third party candidate is notable enough for an article. Q0 04:24, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. His only claim to fame is his unverified (and at this point unverifiable) claim that he intends to run for the US Presidency in 2008. I can find no other evidence of notability. The google test is skewed in this case by his blog. Rossami (talk) 06:30, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Non-elected = non-notable, Delete. Radiant_* 11:29, Mar 20, 2005 (UTC)
  • Spam, spam, spam, spam, everybody loves spam! Delete. - David Gerard 18:57, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • When he actually runs, if anyone votes for him, and/or if he accomplishes somthing, then he deserves an article, maybe. Now? Nope. Delete. --Calton | Talk 12:52, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Agree with everything Calton said. Jonathunder 04:03, 2005 Mar 22 (UTC)
  • Delete. Non-notable. VladMV ٭ talk 19:18, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment [4] google search for "lance brown" and libertarian, excluding the freedom2008.com domain (the domain of his blog) yields 1040 results. Q0 19:50, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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