Talk:George Moscone

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There is no discussion about this article, and the controversy is not apparent from the edits. I removed the NPOV tag. The article needs some editing for structure, but I don't see anything contentious. If things are otherwise, feel free to explain. --Leifern 23:18, 2005 Apr 15 (UTC)

Feinstein?

Why does this article claim Feinstein was "allegedly unwitting" in regards to the murders. Also why is it that Feinstein's credibility is placed into question? "who claims that she attempted to resuscitate the mortally wounded Milk to no avail." This seems like thinly veiled anti-Feinstein commentary in a place where it shouldn't be.

I agree, this article has some strong anti-Feinstein commentary that would mislead anyone who doesn't know that Feinstein wasn't party to the assasination or that she tried to save Milk and later introduced the anti assault weapons bill partly because of this.

"...so-called Peoples Temple"

I took out "so-called" as needless and not objective. It implies that the name Peoples Temple was somehow not genuine, or not fitting. The former is simply wrong -- Peoples Temple was, in fact, the organization's name (leaving aside apostrophal quibbles). The latter is an opinion, and an opinion with condemnatory overtones, implying trickery. Neutral point of view demands that the facts be let speak for themselves as to whether the Peoples Temple lived up to its name. Lonewolf BC 22:09, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Added a Jones/Peoples Temple Section

I was really surprised to find this essentially out of the article until I added it. It was one of the defining and most controversial things of Moscone's career, and his main concern (by far) at the time of his death, with allegations about his connections with Jones swarming on the massive Jonestown tragedy that had taken over America's attention in November 1978 much like 9-11 did in 2001. Having just begun to get over the tragedy, the media had begun to seriously dig into Jones' San Francisco connections and, at the time of Moscone's death, he had already begun having to fend off massive media inquiry into his appointment of Jones. Mosedschurte (talk) 08:04, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I centralised the material from this and the willie brown article into the People's temple article, under public support. It's a weight and relevance concern in these two articles, because it is unduly long and out of proportion to the politicians' legacies. Jones had widespread public support from lots of politicians. It's more useful to look at the phenomenon than to add it to the bio of the various politicians involved. Wikidemo (talk) 02:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Please stop arbitrarily deleting entire sections. As it stands now, you have actually deleted the section on the man potentially responsible for Moscone's 1975 election victory (per just about every source that has written on the issue) and San Francisco's "9-11", the Jonestown tragedy.

Note that I actually had actually cut this section down far below what it could be, and just hit the high points of support that were coming under extreme fire just before Moscone's death. Mosedschurte (talk) 03:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I just cut down the section and moved it to a subsection of the prior section. Hopefully, this will address any "weight" concerns within the article. The idea of "relevance" concerns is, frankly, odd given the subject, its huge weight and the actual events. Mosedschurte (talk) 03:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks fine to me. Wikidemo (talk) 06:48, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I fixed the internal link (article name changed a while back), added a sentence clarifying the actual work done and added a sentence citing the NYT on later revelations to the paper regarding that actual work in the section below.Mosedschurte (talk) 05:37, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Lack of Sources

This article appears to need a lot of development work in other areas. There are also very few sources cited except in a few areas where people have added information. Much of it may have been originally copied from another source. I added a few. Mosedschurte (talk) 04:47, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Associate at Law Firm During Political Career

I'm in the process of reviewing historical documents as I prepare an article on the California firm currently known as Hanson Bridgett LLP. Among the documents are timesheets for George Moscone dated 1969 through 1973. His title is given as Associate. I'm trying to work out how this four-year period fits with the dates given of his time in the state senate and election as mayor. One of the long-time partners at this firm (John Vlahos) confirmed that Moscone was an associate here, but was under the impression that he left the firm at the time he became mayor. Textheavy (talk) 00:17, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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a little trim

In the section on his tenure as state senator, I took out the phrase "as a heterosexual" in the sentence about his being "ahead of his time" on gay rights. It seemed superfluous when the article says he was married with children.Browntable (talk) 19:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

This paragraph on Robert Arneson

"n 1980, sculptor Robert Arneson was commissioned to create a monument to Moscone to be installed in the new Moscone Convention Center. The bust portraying Moscone was done in Arneson's expressionistic style and was accepted by San Francisco's Art Commission. Arneson included as part of the decoration on the pedestal the likeness of a pistol that gained public disapproval. At issue were references to Harvey Milk, the assassinations, the "Twinkie Defense", the White Night riots, and Dianne Feinstein's mayoral succession. Arneson refused to make alterations to the work, the commission was returned to him, and it was later resold. In a critique of the event, Frederic Stout wrote that "Arneson's mistake was in presenting the city mothers/fathers with something honest, engaging and provoking, that is to say, a work of art. What they wanted, of course, was not a work of art at all. They wanted an object of ritual magic: the smiling head of a dead politician." In 1994, a new bust by San Francisco artist Spero Anargyros was unveiled, depicting Moscone holding a pen, below which are words from Moscone: "San Francisco is an extraordinary city, because its people have learned to live together with one another, to respect each other, and to work with each other for the future of their community. That's the strength and beauty of this city – it's the reason why the citizens who live here are the luckiest people in the world."

Arneson was not an "expressionist", but rather, a humorist in the California funk style. Arneson did not make a "mistake." He did exactly what any Art professional might have expected. Shawnkielty (talk) 10:20, 14 September 2023 (UTC)