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On 22 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Laptop computer. The result of the discussion was not moved.

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The article is titles LAPTOP computers. Yet the history is mostly about PORTABLE/LUGGABLE computers.

The history section has an extensive discussion about "portable" computers. Laptops are portable but portable computers may or may not be laptops. (Ya know; square/rectangle). The history section also fails to distinguish what at the time was an important difference between calculators (some of which were quite large) and general purpose computers. At the time of the first laptops, there was a vibrant market in calculators with sophisticated (for their time) programming abilities. I come away from that section with a lot of mostly irrelevant information about luggables and without ANY idea what/when the first laptop was ( marketed). Laptops, if I were to define them, would be comfortable in use on a person's lap, not necessarily have more (physically) than a keyboard mechanically/structurally connected screen (but possibly transported as 2 separate pieces) of approximately equal area, but wouldn't necessarily be battery operated. If it used a GUI an appropriate input device (mouse, wand, touch-pads, roller balls) would be available. (Internally, it would have to have a bootable OS, and sufficient internal storage for a reasonable number of files (as opposed to a remote console). So, WHEN was the first laptop marketed? Where? By whom?174.131.60.136 (talk) 15:07, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Pictures

Do we really need so many pictures of laptops? I'd say maybe two current and two vintage models would suffice but 15 is a little excessive, don't you think? And that's just the ones primarily showing laptops. MightyArms (talk) 12:26, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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The description of the first picture says the first laptop (going around clockwise from the left) is a 2020 MacBook Air model. The description must be changed to 2021 MacBook Pro model to match the image. Razmik Vardanyan (talk) 00:13, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done @Razmik Vardanyan: Thank you for bringing this to our attention! —C.Fred (talk) 00:17, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is a "Laptop" (or Notebook)

Is the Surface (in the article) a Laptop? If so, is the iPad a laptop? As soon as you attach a keyboard cover, what differentiate a Surface (I'm not talking about the Surface Book here) from an iPad? (And no, the kippstand doesn't make it a Laptop for me. Try to work "on your lap" with that thing.) Alien4 (talk) 15:23, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Add A Fact: "Toshiba revives UMPC with Libretto W100"

I found a fact that might belong in this article. See the quote below

Simply put, Toshiba has brought back the UMPC (ultra mobile PC) concept with two multi-touch 7-inch displays. This pup, coming on the 25th anniversary of Toshiba's entry to the laptop market, has some interesting features and generated some initial buzz. Toshiba bills calls the device the Libretto W100 and says it ”goes beyond slates, netbooks and smartphones to deliver something more.”

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https://www.zdnet.com/article/toshibas-libretto-w100-interesting-concept-but-questions-abound/

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 {{Cite web |title=Toshiba's Libretto W100: Interesting concept but questions abound |url=https://www.zdnet.com/article/toshibas-libretto-w100-interesting-concept-but-questions-abound/ |website=ZDNET |access-date=2024-09-30 |language=en |quote=Simply put, Toshiba has brought back the UMPC (ultra mobile PC) concept with two multi-touch 7-inch displays. This pup, coming on the 25th anniversary of Toshiba's entry to the laptop market, has some interesting features and generated some initial buzz. Toshiba bills calls the device the Libretto W100 and says it ”goes beyond slates, netbooks and smartphones to deliver something more.”}}

Additional comments from user: The libretto, was one of the first dual screen laptops alongside the acer iconia. Testing the add a fact extension.

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Pancho507 (talk) 17:14, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 November 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Frost 14:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Laptop → Laptop computer – Common name and better title. Similar to the articles of Desktop computer and Tablet computer. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 13:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). JJP_{Mas_ter} (she/they) 14:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per COMMONNAME.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose also per WP:COMMONNAME. "Tablet" certainly has other more common meanings, desktop is debatable. In any case, we don't have to treat them all the same. "Laptop" by itself is clearly more common than "laptop computer" in general usage. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 16:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as unnecessary WP:PRECISION, which states ...titles should unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but should be no more precise than that. See also WP:CONCISE: The goal of concision is to balance brevity with sufficient information to identify the topic to a person familiar with the general subject area.

𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 17:38, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This article is also the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, so no further dab needed. The only other items listed at Laptop (disambiguation) are a band and two films. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 17:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per WP:CONSISTENCY with desktop computer and tablet computer. Theparties (talk) 18:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, common name per above reasonings. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, what else would laptop refer to? In fact the only things that appear on Laptop (disambiguation) is Laptop (band) a redirect page Laptop (2008 film) and Laptop (2012 film) all of witch I think the user would specify while typing "laptop" the argument of desktop computer and tablet computer why not laptop computer also falls flat as tablet can mean Clay tablet and desktop can mean well the top of a Desk DYC TY (talk) 03:03, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning oppose. It seems apparent that desktop computer and tablet computer are at those titles because of the many other things that can be called a desktop or a tablet (both disambiguation pages). BD2412 T 17:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would have opposed or suggested Laptop (computer) as unnatural but Britannica does use the proposed title so I'm not sure. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:43, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No indication the proposed title is the common name. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 02:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, consistency isn't really something covered in electronic naming conventions. 107.19.1.83 (talk) 00:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Laptop is most certainly, overwhelmingly the WP:COMMONNAME. That's what everyone calls it. It's also the very clear primary topic for the term. Desktop and tablet are not, hence the need for disambiguation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:43, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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