Talk:Gregorio Allegri

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Date of death

An anon contributor from Bulgaria changed Allegri's death date from February 7 to February 17.

I presume you mean to convert a Gregorian to a Julian date? Since Allegri was born and died in Italy, where the Gregorian calender was used, this should not be necessary. February 7 is correct (though it would be February 17 in the Julian calendar, which was not used in 1652.) Let me know if you think I'm wrong. All my reference books give February 7. Antandrus 04:43, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You did the right thing - unexplained factual changes by anons are frequently malicious attempts to lower our quality. Stan 09:16, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Very belated comment on the above: The Julian equivalent of 7 February 1652 Gregorian would have been 28 January, not 17 February. The change from 7 Feb to 17 Feb cannot be explained by an attempt to convert from Gregorian to Julian, unless it was an inaccurately conceived calculation. Alternatively, if the editor assumed 7 February was a Julian date (although, why they would make that assumption escapes me), it might have been justified to convert it to 17 February Gregorian.

But since 2004, things have moved on, and it now seems generally accepted that he did in fact die on 17 February 1652 Gregorian. That's what the Italian, French, German and Russian WPs are all saying now. In the meantime, it's seesawed here:

changed to 17 February on 14 November 2007
changed to 7 February on 29 July 2008
changed to 17 February on 18 May 2010
reverted same day
changed to 17 February on 21 September 2010.

It's been stable at 17 February for over a year now. Let us pray it remains so. -- Jack of Oz ^{[your turn]} 00:49, 2 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Miserere

I've included the description of the Miserere from this page into the Miserere article. It clearly belongs there, but this creates a fair amount of duplication. Some ancillary discussion of the Miserere should be removed from this article; I'm not certain how much.

Quick question--I believe this is is actually from Psalm 51. I made no changes since my knowledge of the vulgate is non-existent. Did numbering change from vulgate to more modern versions?75.71.250.54 (talk) 21:54, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes -- you can read about the difference here. The difference is between the Greek and Hebrew versions. There are several psalms that are divided in one or the other, shifting the numbering, so the Miserere is Psalm 50 in the Septuagint. Antandrus (talk) 22:03, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Picture

Is the picture really one of Allegri? As he was a castrato I think it very unlikely that he would have a beard. 82.110.109.208 12:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you specify the source as to this information? Having the role of a Contralto in the Sistine Choir is not full evidence that he was indeed a Castrato. Chrysalifourfour (talk) 13:09, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Gregorio Allegri also sung as a tenor. --Antonella (talk) 23:30, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"trucker's gear change"

Where did the "trucker's gear change" come from? It's a strange term, and should only be used if there's a very notable source. --Stfg (talk) 13:29, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The whole paragraph is unclear. What is the "error" the copyist has made? It can't be the transposition itself, as this exists in every edition, including the original one by Burney.