Talk:Meshwesh

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I have removed the {{inuse}} notice. I don't have the time available right now to write anything more indepth. I'll try to get back to this ASAP, but if anyone wants to take a crack at it themselves, feel free. —Nefertum17 07:04, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I had the chance to add a bit more, but clearly more work is needed, particularly Meshwesh history in the Third Intermediate Period and comments on their iconography. —Nefertum17 09:17, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Great job!

Good work on this article, Nefertum17! I see that the Meshwesh were first mentioned during Amenhotep 3 (c. 1400 BC), I agree that that probably seems a little too early for the Meshechs, who don't appear in Anatolia until 1200 BC, as far as I can tell. Regards, Codex Sinaiticus 23:41, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, he has left Wikipedia in disgust at the shocking state of the Egyptology articles. What appears increasingly obvious to me is that very few people care about classical mythology articles in general, i.e. very very few people edit them in any way other than copy-editing. Maybe someone appears once a year. But that is about it.

Many of the articles appear to have little more information in them than a 100yr old encyclopedia, and some are just random bits of info scattered about without any order. I have made a start on sorting this out, but it is a bit soul destroying when you know it is only really you and maybe one or two others, who care about what was once such a major thing. ~~~~ 21:05, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Labu not Libu.

Labu is popularly used instead of Libu, if you google labu+meshwesh, you will see what I mean. Also, if you have access to a wonderful compendium of ancient near eastern texts, appropriately titled "Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament" put out by Princeton, you will find that they use the spelling "Labu" as opposed to "Libu".

Tamshwesh

It is a Moroccan tribe, called Tamshwesh, located in the suburbs of the town of Taza, belongs to the large tribe Awaraba. --Manssour 15:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Berber connection

Is there any source for a connection between the Meshwesh or Libu and the Berbers? A connection is mentioned in the article, but no source is given. If there is no source, I think any mention of it should be deleted.--Zofthej (talk) 22:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No source is needed. the Meshwesh and Libu both spoke berber language. And Berbers are known to have lived from the canaries to the Egyptian border. Anciently, Libyans are known to have spoken Berber language and ancient people know that ancient Libyans are berbers. When the greeks came to the region they found the Meshwesh and Libu, berbers. The Greco-berber mythology is the mythology of greeks and meshwesh and Libu. The Awraba, a berber tribe of the Branes branch who originated in Libya are identified as the RBW by the Egyptians, who belong to the Meshwesh tribe. 41.140.22.195 (talk) 01:28, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"No source is needed". With such a start, you are clearly the least suited to answer such questions and to write here in general. Lone-078 (talk) 13:56, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Camels?

"The Meshwesh or Ma were nomad hunter pastoralists, living off their goats, camels and other livestock" (bold text is mine). Is this accurate? As far as I'm aware (purely as an Egyptologist), camels weren't introduced to Africa from Arabia until approx. the seventh century C.E. Can anyone confirm? Muinn (talk) 22:04, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You're way off, camels were introduced in Egypt by the Persians when they invaded in 5th century BC. Akmal94 (talk) 22:38, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]