Talk:Twenty-seventh Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland
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[edit]Surely "In January 2003 the Supreme Court added to this controversy by ruling that it was constitutional for the Government to deport the parents of children who were Irish citizens."
should read
"In January 2003 the Supreme Court added to this controversy by ruling that it was UNconstitutional for the Government to deport the parents of children who were Irish citizens." --Red King 22:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
-No. The article text is correct as stated. The Supreme Court ruled that parents could be deported even if their children were Irish citizens. Being the parent of an Irish citizen does not entail automatic residency in Ireland and does not provide protection from deportation. The Supreme Court became involved because there are constitutional articles establishing the fundamental role of and ensuring the protection of the family unit. The Supreme Court ruling established that these articles are not violated by the deportation of a parent with an Irish child.
Requirment to be born in Ireland?
[edit]Is it correct to say that both:
* Born on the island of Ireland (including its "isles and seas"). * Born to at least one parent who is, or is entitled to be, an Irish citizen.
Are required to be a citizen? A person born abroad to an Irish parent is also a citizen. Seabhcán 16:00, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
- Both are required if case 1 is met; only the second is required if case 1 isn't met. --Kiand 04:03, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Actually the answer if yes and no. Someone who who qualifies under both is constitutionally entitled to be a citizen but this doesn't mean a person isn't entitled by ordinary statute to be a citizen when he or she only qualifies under one or neither. Caveat lector 21:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
The Twenty-seventh Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland, 2004.
[edit]I would like to ask about The Twenty-seventh Amendment of the Constitution of Ireland. I've read here: "While the changes shown above are those made to the English language version of the constitution, constitutionally it is the Irish text that has precedence." Is it still true, do the changes are made only to the English version of the constitution or something was changed recently? Do you know something about that? I'm thinking: if that is really true, the child born in Ireland in 2007 would be still entitled to irish citizenship by birth (automatically) in the case when both parents are non-nationals at the time of the child birth, because: "The Irish text of the constitution takes precedence over the English text (Articles 25 and 63)"?
What do you think about that? Am I right?
I would be gratefull for any answers. Mariusz pl 03:53, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
The Irish text of the constitution was amended as well. The provision of precedence for the Irish text is to preempt any confusion that may arise in the interpretation of the two different languages. Kraikk 15:54, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
question to the author of this text
[edit]What does the author mean saying: "While the changes shown above are those made to the English language version of the constitution, constitutionally it is the Irish text that has precedence."Mariusz pl 01:06, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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Its important to point out that the Article is not meant to be an ongoing debate about future proposals , its supposed to be a factual account of one particular event in history , a referendum that took place
Admins need to keep on a eye on people trying to change the article to suit a particular political agenda , i.e people talking about new bills being brought before government and introducing hearsay evidence etc