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Khilafat you claim that " In 1924, the new, secular, Turkish state relinquished any claims to a universal caliphate" and that therefore "There was now no caliph to support" what about king hussein's immediate claim to khilafat upon the deposing of abdul majid? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherif_Hassein_ibn_Ali

Attention, NPOV, etc.

This page as it stands contains gross over-simplification and, the case can be made, distortions. Needs attention.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 23:28, Feb 22, 2005 (UTC)

I am adding just the attention tag to the main page. Will wait for feedback on the POV issue before tagging the main page with that.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 23:40, Feb 22, 2005 (UTC)

Wow..This is definitely an exaggeration to call this a fundamentalist movement when even the term fundamentalist wasn't coined ..The Father of Secular India Mahatma Gandhi, a devoted Hindu gave his full support to this religious movement as a symbol aspirations of of United India. 86.181.16.28 (talk) 20:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, this is not an objective account of events and contains a strong bias against the movement. 128.250.0.111 (talk) 03:02, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anon editor strikes again

An anon editor with an anti-Muslim bias re-instated the disputed text, accusing Gandhi of being the instigator of the Khilafat movement and of responsibility for an alleged Muslim massacre. I removed it again. Zora 05:04, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The only way to handle this kind of thing is to address the incidents the POV editor is talking about and to do it in a NPOV way. There were violent incidents. In fact, the narrative in official Pakistani textbooks is that Gandhi arbitrarily and unilaterally called off the whole movement after one specific one.—iFaqeer (Talk to me!) 06:46, Feb 28, 2005 (UTC)

I know that the Khilafat movement turned violent in places. I just don't understand blaming Gandhi for it. So far as I know, he was not a leader of the movement, just sympathetic. But I don't know enough about the whole thing to write a better article -- I'm juggling too much right now. Including my first proofreading for hire, which I should be doing RIGHT NOW <g>. Zora 08:13, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Aargh, aargh. OK, I rewrote it, with a less anti-Gandhi slant, but with the Moplah rebellion. However, it's not showing up. When I go to EDIT the page, I see my revision. But only the old stub is showing. Zora 22:47, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Anon editor still making inflammatory edits

The anon editor persists in trying to turn this article into a diatribe against Muslims. I am having a hard time keeping my temper with this sort of thing. I regard the Hindutva demagoguery re Muslims as morally equivalent to Nazi diatribes about Jews, or Hutu radio calls to exterminate Tutsis. Innocent people are DYING because of idealogues like the anon editor. Wikipedia shouldn't be the carrier of this plague. Zora 08:22, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sridhararao 04:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)Does anybody knew why All India Muslim league did not participate in this movement? sridhar[reply]

Can you provide any source saying that they did not support them? 2407:D000:A:57B2:F4BA:B07E:668E:7562 (talk) 15:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Time for the dispute to be closed I think. The anon editor isn't making anymore anti-Muslim statements is he/she? It's been over 3 years since then, hasn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 57.250.245.249 (talk) 10:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology of "Khilafat"

Could someone help adding an etymology section about the name of the movement? [[1]] (taken from the "further reading" section of Caliphate) might be a good start. Ahyangyi (talk) 14:07, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's also confusing that the above-linked article says "Khilafat" is just "Caliphate" in English, but the Caliphate article says it's "Khilafah". The difference between the "t" and "h" is, well, I don't know... Someone with knowledge on the Arabic language could help with this. Ahyangyi (talk) 14:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These are all basically translations of the word خليفة from arabic. notice how it ends with the letter "ة" (Arabic words are read right to left). This letter is pronounced as a soft 't' sound. In Arabic grammar if a word has no word after it, then the last letter of that word is silent. Therefore it is sometimes pronounced with or without the 't' sound (Khilafat or Khilafa/Khilafah). In English we use both. Note that this is different from the word "Khalifa" which mean Caliph not Caliphate.

I know it's been 5 years but I thought this might help. 2407:D000:A:57B2:F4BA:B07E:668E:7562 (talk) 15:10, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is phonology rather than grammar but also quite specific to this ending. Its ultimate anecestor is a feminine in -t, but rendered -h in certain conditions like when the word has nothing after it. That letter is basically an Arabic h with the two dots from an Arabic t above it Harsimaja (talk) 01:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright

The lead is a ~~very close paraphrasing~~ copy paste of the Britannica article on this: https://www.britannica.com/event/Khilafat-movement. Needs to be rewritten to avoid copyvio issues. Gotitbro (talk) 19:42, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Urdu

The Khilafat movement or the Caliphate movement, also known as the Indian Muslim movement (1919–24), was a pan-Islamist political protest campaign launched by Muslims of British India led by Shaukat Ali, Maulana Mohammad Ali Jauhar[1], Hakim Ajmal Khan,[2][3] and Abul Kalam Azad[4] to restore the caliph of the Ottoman Caliphate, who was considered the leader of the Muslims, as an effective political authority. It was a protest against the sanctions placed on the caliph and the Ottoman Empire after the First World War by the Treaty of Sèvres.

The movement collapsed by late 1922 when Turkey gained a more favorable diplomatic position and moved towards Nationalism. By 1924, Turkey had simply abolished the role of caliph.[5] 103.141.158.26 (talk) 19:21, 21 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Khilafat movement.

The khilafat movement is known as the Indian Muslim movement (1919-1924) was a pan-Islamist political protest campaign launched by Muslim of British India led by Shaukat Ali,Maulana Md. Ali Jauhar, Hakim Ajmal khan and Abdul kalam Azad. 2409:4054:216:F185:E94D:109F:96FF:76D (talk) 05:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]