Talk:Sabbath in Christianity

Quotes

Since it looks like the content of what does or does not get put in this article is a hot topic I thought I would put this here. Only recently came across the quote. If people would like to use it or not, or parts of it, I'll let others decide:

"Moreover, it is disputed whether bishops or pastors have the right to introduce ceremonies in the Church, and to make laws concerning meats, holy-days and grades, that is, orders of ministers, etc. They that give this right to the bishops refer to this testimony John 16, 12. 13: I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when He, the Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth. They also refer to the example of the Apostles, who commanded to abstain from blood and from things strangled, Acts 15, 29. They refer to the Sabbath-day as having been changed into the Lord's Day, contrary to the Decalog, as it seems. Neither is there any example whereof they make more than concerning the changing of the Sabbath-day. Great, say they, is the power of the Church, since it has dispensed with one of the Ten Commandments!"

The quote is from the 28th article of the Augsburg Confession written by Philip Melanchthon (the closest associate to Luther I know of) when asked by the princes of Germany to give an account to Charles V about their protection of Martin Luther and his followers. It was read to Charles V at Augsburg, by the princes.

Another quote:

“In the New Law the keeping of the Sunday supplants that of the Sabbath, not in virtue of the precept of the law, but through determination by the church and the customs of the Christian people.”

This quote is from Thomas Aquinas' Summa Theologiae, virtues of justice in the human community, question 103, the virtue of respectful service, the third point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.103.195.109 (talk) 02:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Justin Martyr reference unclear

However, Justin Martyr believe the Sabbath has only attributed to Moses and the Israelites. What does this sentence mean? Obviously believe should be believed; possibly has should be was. I doubt that the editor knows what attributed means. I think they may mean that the Sabbath applied only to the Israelites, but Moses doesn't fit properly with that meaning. Do they mean that under the Law of Moses, the Sabbath applied only to the Israelites, perhaps? Koro Neil (talk) 21:32, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Sabbath Through The Centuries Linked Materials & Original Languages where possible

I have gone through most of the common references, and gone back to their original sources, and original languages, and linked to most of them. Which may be found here - https://archive.org/details/sabbath-through-the-centuries-with-extra-corrected-citations-version-with-notes_20230525_2208

Feel free to update your references with the linked materials, that have the noted corrections. Thank you. 65.167.226.11 (talk) 05:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

The Lord's Day (Rev 1:10)

There are several viewpoints about what "the Lord's day" (Rev. 1:10) refers to in it's contextual setting, irrespective of what post-canonical non-scriptural authors have stated in print. This may be seen in this article here: https://archive.org/details/revelation-1-vs-10-the-lords-day-the-seventh-day-the-sabbath-of-the-lord-and-lots-of-extras_202301/WHAT%20IS%20THE%20LORD%27S%20DAY%20-%20REVELATION%201vs10/mode/1up

65.167.226.11 (talk) 05:23, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

The article was biased with an assumptive position that the first day of the week is the equivalent of saying, "the Lord's day", when not all post-canonical non-scriptural authors agree upon that. In fact, there is quite a bit of evidence, internally, and post-canonical, that the refernce to "the Lord's day" (Rev. 1:10) is actually citing Isa. 58:13 in the midst of a parallelism drawn from the OT, in it's immediate context, referring to the seventh (7th) day of the week, or the sabbath. So, references in the article which place an a priori bias upon the point and refer to the Lord's day automatically as the first day of the week, are not presenting the broader range of factual information. All references to "the Lord's day" being the first day of the week should be removed, and simply replaced with "Sunday" (or more technically saturday sundown to sunday sundown), instead to be unbiased upon that point. Any actual historical quotation which refers to the first day of the week as "the Lord's day" would be fine, as long as they do not seek to overwhelm the article, and should often only be given so much room as their counterparts are, which states that the Lord's day is the seventh day or sabbath. Otherwise, leave out the idea altogether, and just refer to the numerical days of the week, 1 & 7, or Saturday and Sunday, etc. Also the Ignatian quote was in error, as cited in English, but is now corrected by the Interlinear citation. For more, see the Interlinear here - http://www.embarl.force9.co.uk/Other/Ignatius_Magnesians.pdf and see the obvious bias for Ignatius' letter to read "the Lord's day" here - https://www.pickle-publishing.com/papers/sunday-fraud.htm#ign 65.167.226.11 (talk) 06:13, 9 June 2023 (UTC)65.167.226.11 (talk) 06:14, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

Sabbath

While the sabbath is correct on here, it is also often observed on sundays, and it can also be called "shabbat" which literally translates to "sabbath" in the native Hebrew language. 70.50.200.30 (talk) 01:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)