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Date	Process	Result
December 12, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
February 15, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed
April 12, 2007	Featured article candidate	Promoted
January 9, 2021	Featured article review	Demoted
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Toxygene

I believe that the Orb's "Toxygene" was never meant to be a remix of Jarre's "Oxygene." If I remember correctly, that was a joke placed in some advertisements in France for the Orb song. — 66.215.51.23 00:56, 13 April 2005

I have removed the Toxygene mention of Jarre:

, which features Toxygene, a remix of a Jean Michel Jarre single from Oxygene 7-13. Apparently, Jarre rejected it as being nothing like the original.

Lazlo's discography clearly states that the Jarre thing was a joke. Our article was hardly confident sounding on the matter - "Apparently, Jarre..."

As far as I am concerned, the proof that this track had zero nil zilch and nada to do with Jarre lies in the songwriting credits. Don't you think if it was a remix of Oxygene Jarre would have a co-credit?! He doesn't. --kingboyk 18:56, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found some print sources that talk about this subject - they seemed to think it was true. I haven't found any reliable sources stating otherwise. Wickethewok 08:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like (from reading Toxygene) Lazlo's Orb discography was wrong then :/ --kingboyk (talk) 07:39, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:KLF

Should this article be considered within the scope of WP:KLF? (And, yes, before anybody asks I'm looking for a free Featured Article ;)). --kingboyk 20:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since nobody objected (and they've had 13 years :D), I am going to add the WP:KLF template. The groups were closely related in the early days and I'd like to be able to keep track of this article's status on the KLF quality list. --kingboyk (talk) 14:05, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anybody maintaining this?

The 2007–present section has no sentences with citations covering anything which happened since 2012. It looks to me like 2009 or 2010 is about the last year properly documented, and a quick glance at the discography says there's been half a dozen albums since then. The recent edit history is not pretty. It's a shame because the article starts out great but then becomes a mess... the last "citation" is a link to Amazon! :( @Wickethewok:. --kingboyk (talk) 04:15, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article says: "After leaving Killing Joke in 1986, Paterson met future KLF member Jimmy Cauty". This seems to be really clumsily worded, as Paterson was never a member of Killing Joke. Also, when and how did he meet Cauty?... Actually, thinking about it can probably fill this in from the Guardian article I unearthed, where Youth says he was living with his childhood friend Paterson and (Youth's) ex-Brilliant bandmate Cauty was a regular visitor. It doesn't explicitly say that is when Alex and Jimmy first met, so I'll have to be careful not to give that impression... --kingboyk (talk) 03:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise, the lineup is outdated, as Thomas Fehlmann has apparently gradually left the group since the release of COW / Chill Out, World, contributring only a few tracks on No Sounds Are Out of Bounds, and evidently having been replaced entirely by the most recent release by Michael Rendall. Then again, even The Orb's own website states that the most recent album was by 'Alex Paterson and his rotating roster of collaborative cohorts..', so for all intents and purposes Alex Paterson IS The Orb, everyone else is just there for the ride for a period of time. KDLarsen (talk) 10:07, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source available

2016 interview with Youth. Includes a mention of "the backing that Alex made for Primal Scream’s Higher Than The Sun" (which astonishingly doesn't seem to be mentioned in the article given it was a prominent track on what many consider to be one of the best albums of the 90s, if not the best. One sentence would suffice.) --kingboyk (talk) 04:11, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Personnel section needed

I really feel that with the numerous lineup changes over the years, the article needs a Personnel section listing either each line up in chronological order, or each member with the years they were active in the group. --kingboyk (talk) 21:16, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Orbsessions

I feel like Orbsessions volumes 1 & 2 could do with at least a mention. Also, I don't understand this sentence about Baghdad Batteries (Orbsessions Volume III), in particular the words I have bolded: "The 11-track album is said to be the third in the Orbsessions series, although unlike the first two outtakes parts composed of brand new material, recorded at Fehlmann's Berlin studio". Is that supposed to mean something like "unlike the first two albums in the series which contained outtakes, Baghdad Batteries comprised brand new material, recorded at Fehlmann's Berlin studio"? Or was BB part old outtakes and part new material? --kingboyk (talk) 04:46, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Edit made based on the contents of the cited source (that BB is new recordings, whereas Vols 1-2 weren't). --kingboyk (talk) 04:51, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]